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Would you be better off with the Big Four?

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I am literally one of the most successful people my age in the City, and it hasn't been through spending every hour of the day working solidly.  Read all comments »

As anyone with a passing relationship with reality knows, investment banks are in the process of unloading many of the staff they acquired over the past five years. Accountancy firms, however, are still a) hiring, and b) making money.

Last week, Deloitte said revenues will be up 11% this year, thanks to all the ‘downturn work’ (Financial Times). And analysis by Accountancy Age suggests that while investment banks’ corporate finance revenues are falling off a cliff, combined revenues at the Big Four have been growing at a rate of 13%.

Combine this with the fact that Grant Thornton is busy raising cash to help pay extra wages as it battles for market share (Accountancy Age), and it all looks rather promising.

But looks are deceiving. Accounting firms are doing a little hacking of their own – KPMG has sliced 90 corporate financiers, and the Big Four have a history of nastiness almost equal to banks’. KPMG (again) is said to have made 700 staff redundant by email in 2001 (FT).

Keith Dugdale, global head of recruitment at KPMG, says there are “small numbers being let go, but nothing on the scale that banks are experiencing.

“On the whole, we want to hang onto people,” he adds. “Corporate finance may be going down, but areas like corporate recovery and forensic are countercyclical and we’d rather redeploy people internally than let them go.”

Brendan Collins, head of HR at Mazars, which ranked 12th among UK accounting firms last year, says there are no plans for redundancies, but they’re not hiring any more corporate financiers. “We are still hiring for audit, recovery, business and tax, however,” he assures us.

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Henry, FX & Money Markets,  Fri 11 Jul 08

Doesn't seem enormous vs the surveys / 'statistics' I've seen, but many girls I've been with say its the biggest they've ever seen. Pretty fly for a white guy ;-)

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DCB, Private Equity / Venture Capital,  Fri 11 Jul 08

Henry is leaving out partner earnings at the big 4 which are not bad at all, a decent tax partner will be bringing in £1m a year.  Sure this is less in nominal terms than a front office high flyer but in risk adjusted terms it generally outperforms

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Danny, Investment Banking / M & A,  Sun 13 Jul 08

DCB - true but for the pain of being a tax accountant £1m does not get close to fair compensation. Forever a geek.....

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Henry, FX & Money Markets,  Sun 13 Jul 08

DCB, you're absolutely right, and being on £1m/yr in one's 30s would be far from shoddy. However, its so painful to get up there, in your 20s when all your IB friends are on a healthy 6 figures, you're still clawing your way up on rubbish £50k newly qualified salaries. The Big 4 is far too much of a sacrifice in your early 20s, which should be the best time of your life if you have money to spend on plush apartments, fast cars and faster women, instead you'll have a crap first few years all for a comfortable life like everyone else a decade down the line.

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Olivia, HR & Recruitment,  Mon 14 Jul 08

Henry - what car do you drive?

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Been there done that, Trading,  Tue 15 Jul 08

Must be driving a Ferrari  or something like it but then in that Ferrari sits an arrogant, self-proclaimed success at a bank which probably has fired him long back and he is still living the F.O. life...Oh Henry, I meant Front office life. But I do agree with you that Big 4 is not the answer to a bank. In fact, both of them are world's apart in terms of the work they do. So people, find a job that you will love going to and you wouldn't mind working your ass not just for the money but for the thrill of the job or the security it gives (whatever rings a bell for you).

I love trading and can do that all day long and I hate losing money but it happens at times, so its not that there is money all the time but I trade for the love of it and yeah that gets me my FAST cars, FASTER women and what not...I bet Lakshmi Mittal or Bill Gates have them too. So Henry my friend, no big deal, you still got a big mouth but that's understandable for a newly successful young lad, wait when the tide turns against you....and you bet it will, it sure will!

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Pro Big 4, Accounting,  Thu 17 Jul 08

Well said Been there done that yesterday.  Henry's 'luck' will run out very soon or perhaps it has and that is why he is addicted to a recruitment website.  Is it really all about money investment *anker?

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